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Permalink Reply by Velvet_Glove on January 14, 2010 at 1:04am

This subject has been talked about many times on BA. Here's a good one http://www.balleralert.com/forum/topics/light-skin-to-dark-skin-to

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Permalink Reply by MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! on January 14, 2010 at 1:42am

I asked a friend why do men prefer light over dark and this is what he said:
u know...ima break it down for u society has...white society has brainwashed the black man into thinking that light is better
u look at music videos and all u see r spainish and light-skinned women. like one or 2 dark skinned women
on the average most black men would pick a lightskinned or white women cause they been taught that they are better than darker women
my babymama, ex wife is darker than me
i have no preference...but i would choose a PRETTY darker woman, than a PRETTY light woman
: the skin tone
the darker skin is smoother!
just playin!
but seriously, id go dark because of the skin tome
tone
its attractive....look at us! Im pretty, ur pretty
black is beautiful

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Permalink Reply by Miss Jones on January 14, 2010 at 2:19am

Let's not forget this classic.... http://www.balleralert.com/forum/topics/darnell-docketthe-wants-them

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Permalink Reply by Tash Abraham on January 14, 2010 at 11:34am

You all have explored this topics historical aspect so I wont even bother.. honestly i get so tired of talking about these things, it just reminds me what big a MESS our people are in.
Smh anywho.. just wanted to throw in a tidbit to answer the question as to whether or not its still prevalent in our communities.. To this day, some of my peers throw "Light Skin vs Dark Skin" parties. Not in some down-home Confederate flag rocking towns, Brooklyn/Queens NYC. Ive seen girls [via TWITTER] get offended if someone referred to them as brown-dark skin, and call upon people who know them outside of Twitter to verify their "red-boned"-ness. "Tell these people im lightskin please! Its only cuz of the summer and all that damn sun! Wait til the winter time.. Ima be good again. WATCH." Smh.. Str8 from the j******' mouth.

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Permalink Reply by Skytz0100 on January 14, 2010 at 12:05pm

It's still prevalent in the south that is for sure. I was pretty much in between growing up I was either too dark for some or too light for others and officially I am red skinned but I am not hispanic. So growing up I got attention, but the minute that yellow bone walked in the room all the attention went in that direction. I never let it bother me because I take a look at a guy and if I notice a pattern such as every girl you step out with is light, bright, and full of sun light then that let's me know that obviously you have issues and I am not about to go there on that level with you. I date only black men but I went through phases. One point in my life I liked the yella's. Later on I wanted the chocolates. Then it changed to tall. It's all about you and your preference. Also our tastes change over time so we eventually grow out of that behavior but it is still some bogus as s***.

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Permalink Reply by Pamela on January 14, 2010 at 4:08pm

These thread is way tooo personal for me so I'll say this:

Coming from a Black/Indian Family where the majority of my family are all HIGH yella with (hazel,green, light brown, grey eyes)

I took after my dad so I'm dark skinned with dark brown eyes.

This is ALIVE & STILL thriving today.

I've experienced racism or hatred for my complection from:
My Family
Men
Friends. You name it.

Yes I've got all the "Your cute for a black girl" ignorant ass comment( not compliment).
Basically implying that black is ugly and if you just happen to be cute and black your lucky or some s***,
so yes it's true.
The biggest slap in the face was:
My family "The Thompson's" are well known in our city. Mostly to men because we are a large family and we all have exotic features. One guy was telling another guy that he was talking to one of the "Thompson" girls and when asked which one. he said the dark-skinned one as I was the ONLY dark-skinned one out of 24 of us.

Dude was like"Damn all them fine ass women, what you pick the dark-skinned one for?"

Funniest s*** is I'm cuter than most of them...SMDH!
And the only one who got a modeling contract...... So it does exist

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Permalink Reply by Damnstraight on January 14, 2010 at 11:41pm

Speaking of, does anyone know the history on this guy...I keep hearing how he's had a rough upcoming or something...One person said they could've and probably should've done a movie on him kinda similar to the Blind Side...

Miss Jones said:

Let's not forget this classic.... http://www.balleralert.com/forum/topics/darnell-docketthe-wants-them

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Permalink Reply by Damnstraight on January 14, 2010 at 11:45pm

NM I googled it...Crazy f'd situation...

Demons haunted Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett
By Stephen F. Holder, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Friday, January 30, 2009


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TAMPA

Every time a stranger inevitably stops Kevin Dockett in his Maryland neighborhood to ask about the red Cardinals flag that flaps from his Cadillac, it provides him a chance to tell them about a miracle named Darnell Dockett.

And Darnell's uncle is more than happy to share the story of his Pro Bowl nephew whose life he helped transform.

"I can't even find the words to tell you how proud I am," Kevin Dockett said by phone. "I can't tell you what it's like to see people I don't even know wearing his jersey and cheering for him. It's unbelievable."

How else to describe the fifth-year defensive tackle's journey from motherless teenage criminal to a man who on Sunday might win a Super Bowl?

Even Dockett himself shakes his head when recounting his childhood horrors in vivid detail.

The impetus of Dockett's difficulties, he says, was his mother's death. He returned to their Decatur, Ga., home on that day in 1994 to find her with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. He was just 13, but it's an image he still can't shake.

The circumstances surrounding Cheryl Hambrick's death remain unknown. There are no suspects and no leads.

"I would like to sit down with the killer," the 6-foot-4, 285-pounder said, "to ask them what was going through your head and just let them know all the pain you caused."

Dockett knows it's unlikely the chance will ever come.

"I realized it was in the projects, and it was a single black mom. They probably weren't going to put a lot of effort into finding the killer anyway," the former Florida State star said. "I took it and moved on."

He has turned the page on his pain, a sign of his growth evident in everything from his locker room leadership to his decisions as a new father. The more he grew, the more he realized obsessing was no good.

"Being on this team and from going to Bible study and getting closer to God and being closer to my teammates, one thing I've learned is forgiveness," Dockett said. "But I still want to know why, what were you thinking? But it's just to get the demons out."

The demons were present in the years immediately after his mother's death. His cancer-stricken father's death four months later didn't help, especially because he had taken Dockett in. But Dockett doesn't recall it being nearly as painful because Darnell Dockett Sr. hadn't been a part of his life for many years. He made a last-ditch effort before his death, even though he was rebuffed.

"My pain wouldn't let me (have feelings) for a stranger because he was never there," Dockett said. "I guess two, three years after he passed away, I learned forgiveness. … I can't judge him."

Without a parental figure, Dockett devolved into a delinquent. Literally running from the cops was a sort of twisted game.

"I got away the majority of the time," he said.

Up in Maryland, Kevin Dockett observed what was becoming of his brother's child.

"I just did what any brother would do," he said this week after finishing a shift driving his snowplow.

But not just any brother takes in a troubled, hard-headed kid with multiple arrest warrants. But without Kevin Dockett, Darnell likely wouldn't be here today.

Darnell moved to Maryland soon after his father's death, and his uncle "forced me" to play football, he said. His football knowledge was, well, limited.

"I remember the coach said, 'Do you know what a three-point stance is?' " Dockett said. "I said, 'Nope, but I can tell you how to steal a Buick Regal.' "

He struggled during his first season. But watching a pair of cousins excel gave him something to work toward.

"I would always hear him down in the basement lifting those weights every night," Kevin Dockett said.

It paid off the next season.

"I got the confidence to play football again," Dockett said. "I ran like two or three people over the first day with pads on, and there hasn't been any looking back since."

That applies as much to his life as it does his sport. Dockett laughs more these days. How can he not?

"I'm not one of those silver spoon kids who've been playing football since they were 5; (their) mother taking them to practice, buying them all the newest cleats," he said. "I had the same high school cleats for three years. I would have had them for four if my big toe wouldn't have been about to bust out of them. This game wasn't handed to me, and I'm very thankful for it.

"You can ask any one of my teammates. When I'm in the locker room, it's joke time all the time. My tears are gone. I've shed enough of them."

Maybe those demons finally are gone for good.

Dockett to Graham's mom: 'Get over it'

Tuesday's media day brought out some good ol' Florida-Florida State animosity. Cardinals defensive end Darnell Dockett wasn't thrilled with being told the mother of Bucs tailback Earnest Graham is still upset about the 2001 incident involving them.

"Get over it," said Dockett, who played at FSU. "That's old news. We moved on. I played against Earnest last year. We chopped it up, talked. They want to baby their son. All that's just, whatever. I actually don't even remember what happened."

Here's a refresher. Graham said Dockett intentionally twisted his knee after a tackle during Florida's 37-13 win, resulting in a sprain. Florida coach Steve Spurrier sent copies of the play to ACC and SEC officials, and Graham even retained an attorney to determine if a lawsuit was justified. Graham missed the next game, a loss to Tennessee that cost the Gators a berth in the BCS title game.

"At that time, you never know what could happen in football, and everybody had their speculations on what happened," Dockett said. "But at the end of the day, he's a professional athlete. I'm one, and whatever happened back in the day happened."

But what did happen?

"Of course he would say that. That's a very political thing to say," said Steelers offensive tackle Max Starks, then a sophomore for the Gators. "But I know. I was right there, and I had to pick Earnest up. So the film evidence, if anybody ever looks at it … it speaks for itself."

Compiled from Times staff, wires



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Permalink Reply by JustMe on January 15, 2010 at 12:52am

that was a good read...

Damnstraight said:

NM I googled it...Crazy f'd situation...

Demons haunted Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett
By Stephen F. Holder, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Friday, January 30, 2009


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TAMPA

Every time a stranger inevitably stops Kevin Dockett in his Maryland neighborhood to ask about the red Cardinals flag that flaps from his Cadillac, it provides him a chance to tell them about a miracle named Darnell Dockett.

And Darnell's uncle is more than happy to share the story of his Pro Bowl nephew whose life he helped transform.

"I can't even find the words to tell you how proud I am," Kevin Dockett said by phone. "I can't tell you what it's like to see people I don't even know wearing his jersey and cheering for him. It's unbelievable."

How else to describe the fifth-year defensive tackle's journey from motherless teenage criminal to a man who on Sunday might win a Super Bowl?

Even Dockett himself shakes his head when recounting his childhood horrors in vivid detail.

The impetus of Dockett's difficulties, he says, was his mother's death. He returned to their Decatur, Ga., home on that day in 1994 to find her with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. He was just 13, but it's an image he still can't shake.

The circumstances surrounding Cheryl Hambrick's death remain unknown. There are no suspects and no leads.

"I would like to sit down with the killer," the 6-foot-4, 285-pounder said, "to ask them what was going through your head and just let them know all the pain you caused."

Dockett knows it's unlikely the chance will ever come.

"I realized it was in the projects, and it was a single black mom. They probably weren't going to put a lot of effort into finding the killer anyway," the former Florida State star said. "I took it and moved on."

He has turned the page on his pain, a sign of his growth evident in everything from his locker room leadership to his decisions as a new father. The more he grew, the more he realized obsessing was no good.

"Being on this team and from going to Bible study and getting closer to God and being closer to my teammates, one thing I've learned is forgiveness," Dockett said. "But I still want to know why, what were you thinking? But it's just to get the demons out."

The demons were present in the years immediately after his mother's death. His cancer-stricken father's death four months later didn't help, especially because he had taken Dockett in. But Dockett doesn't recall it being nearly as painful because Darnell Dockett Sr. hadn't been a part of his life for many years. He made a last-ditch effort before his death, even though he was rebuffed.

"My pain wouldn't let me (have feelings) for a stranger because he was never there," Dockett said. "I guess two, three years after he passed away, I learned forgiveness. … I can't judge him."

Without a parental figure, Dockett devolved into a delinquent. Literally running from the cops was a sort of twisted game.

"I got away the majority of the time," he said.

Up in Maryland, Kevin Dockett observed what was becoming of his brother's child.

"I just did what any brother would do," he said this week after finishing a shift driving his snowplow.

But not just any brother takes in a troubled, hard-headed kid with multiple arrest warrants. But without Kevin Dockett, Darnell likely wouldn't be here today.

Darnell moved to Maryland soon after his father's death, and his uncle "forced me" to play football, he said. His football knowledge was, well, limited.

"I remember the coach said, 'Do you know what a three-point stance is?' " Dockett said. "I said, 'Nope, but I can tell you how to steal a Buick Regal.' "

He struggled during his first season. But watching a pair of cousins excel gave him something to work toward.

"I would always hear him down in the basement lifting those weights every night," Kevin Dockett said.

It paid off the next season.

"I got the confidence to play football again," Dockett said. "I ran like two or three people over the first day with pads on, and there hasn't been any looking back since."

That applies as much to his life as it does his sport. Dockett laughs more these days. How can he not?

"I'm not one of those silver spoon kids who've been playing football since they were 5; (their) mother taking them to practice, buying them all the newest cleats," he said. "I had the same high school cleats for three years. I would have had them for four if my big toe wouldn't have been about to bust out of them. This game wasn't handed to me, and I'm very thankful for it.

"You can ask any one of my teammates. When I'm in the locker room, it's joke time all the time. My tears are gone. I've shed enough of them."

Maybe those demons finally are gone for good.

Dockett to Graham's mom: 'Get over it'

Tuesday's media day brought out some good ol' Florida-Florida State animosity. Cardinals defensive end Darnell Dockett wasn't thrilled with being told the mother of Bucs tailback Earnest Graham is still upset about the 2001 incident involving them.

"Get over it," said Dockett, who played at FSU. "That's old news. We moved on. I played against Earnest last year. We chopped it up, talked. They want to baby their son. All that's just, whatever. I actually don't even remember what happened."

Here's a refresher. Graham said Dockett intentionally twisted his knee after a tackle during Florida's 37-13 win, resulting in a sprain. Florida coach Steve Spurrier sent copies of the play to ACC and SEC officials, and Graham even retained an attorney to determine if a lawsuit was justified. Graham missed the next game, a loss to Tennessee that cost the Gators a berth in the BCS title game.

"At that time, you never know what could happen in football, and everybody had their speculations on what happened," Dockett said. "But at the end of the day, he's a professional athlete. I'm one, and whatever happened back in the day happened."

But what did happen?

"Of course he would say that. That's a very political thing to say," said Steelers offensive tackle Max Starks, then a sophomore for the Gators. "But I know. I was right there, and I had to pick Earnest up. So the film evidence, if anybody ever looks at it … it speaks for itself."

Compiled from Times staff, wires



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Permalink Reply by MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! on January 15, 2010 at 1:24am

Dude was like "Damn all them fine ass women, what you pick the dark-skinned one for?" So u cant be fine if u dark skin? SMH

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Permalink Reply by C.R.E.A.M. on January 15, 2010 at 2:21am

Hell no its not even, and to be honest I don't think it ever will be. I'm a model and sometimes when my agency sends the breakdown for the casting the client specifically asks for Light skinned Caribbean or Mixed looking AA which i find hilarious since we already have very few jobs that are specifically for black people, and when we do get them they have to be bright. KFC IS THE WORST i have gotten an email for their casting saying NO DARK SKINNED AFRICAN AMERICANS! in caps. It does not get much more apparent than that. I hate to say it but if I were dark skinned i would probably have low self esteem we just do not see enough images of beautiful dark skinned women and very few of us embrace that.

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