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I always open doors for women even at the store..I don't like to see women pump gas...
hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!
Couldn't it be argued that you do it anyway because you are a gentleman? That thank you or I appreciate it is nice, and should be said, but doesn't one do chivalrious (sp?) things because that is what should be done and not to get anythign in return? :)
Reemstarr said:hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!
that is true but i don't do it to get anything in return but but flags go up when i start to take note of that pattern i think its disrespectful to any man or gentlemen if he is treated as if he is invisible no one likes that male or female.. that door did not open by itself its basic manners that we are taught from child hood please, thank you, excuse me, pardon me i expect nothing less from Adults and if you cannot express those ideas or manners appropriately then you need not be in public it is matter of principle! "there are P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L-I-T-I-E=S!!...."
she-who-rocks said:Couldn't it be argued that you do it anyway because you are a gentleman? That thank you or I appreciate it is nice, and should be said, but doesn't one do chivalrious (sp?) things because that is what should be done and not to get anythign in return? :)
Reemstarr said:hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!
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