I went on a date last night, and when I came out, he just sat in the truck while I let myself in. Am I asking too much or being unrealistic to think a man should open my door?
I dated a man last summer that opened my door getting in and out. Is it just not the norm nowadays? Do you even think about it?

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OMG...Maddison Ima shake you. Dont do that again please :-/

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@maddison...of course you are , sweetie. His ego is hurt and he's young, so he lashing out...continue to ignore him

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this is why I always hit the gas station before or after work when I am dressed! You would not believe how often a strange man will offer to pump my gas for me! Chivalry is not dead everywhere, it's alive and kickin in the 'burbs.

http://wwwmrentertainment.blogspot.com/ said:
I always open doors for women even at the store..I don't like to see women pump gas...

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hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!

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Couldn't it be argued that you do it anyway because you are a gentleman? That thank you or I appreciate it is nice, and should be said, but doesn't one do chivalrious (sp?) things because that is what should be done and not to get anythign in return? :)

Reemstarr said:
hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!

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You are absolutely right RStarr

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that is true but i don't do it to get anything in return but but flags go up when i start to take note of that pattern i think its disrespectful to any man or gentlemen if he is treated as if he is invisible no one likes that male or female.. that door did not open by itself its basic manners that we are taught from child hood please, thank you, excuse me, pardon me i expect nothing less from Adults and if you cannot express those ideas or manners appropriately then you need not be in public it is matter of principle! "there are P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L-I-T-I-E=S!!...."

she-who-rocks said:
Couldn't it be argued that you do it anyway because you are a gentleman? That thank you or I appreciate it is nice, and should be said, but doesn't one do chivalrious (sp?) things because that is what should be done and not to get anythign in return? :)

Reemstarr said:
hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!

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That is all true! I agree with you completely, so when folks don't say "thank you" I shout "you're welcome" and generally they say thank you afterthought wise. I can tell you people aren't always raising their kids with manners anymore. And furthermore it all stems from the 80's where the mentality switched to "me me me me." All you can do is lead by example and charge forward.
Reemstar i will always say thank you and I totally appreciate you! (for all those chicks that didn't) :)

Reemstarr said:
that is true but i don't do it to get anything in return but but flags go up when i start to take note of that pattern i think its disrespectful to any man or gentlemen if he is treated as if he is invisible no one likes that male or female.. that door did not open by itself its basic manners that we are taught from child hood please, thank you, excuse me, pardon me i expect nothing less from Adults and if you cannot express those ideas or manners appropriately then you need not be in public it is matter of principle! "there are P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L-I-T-I-E=S!!...."

she-who-rocks said:
Couldn't it be argued that you do it anyway because you are a gentleman? That thank you or I appreciate it is nice, and should be said, but doesn't one do chivalrious (sp?) things because that is what should be done and not to get anythign in return? :)

Reemstarr said:
hmm good discussion but i am sort of on the fence.. to quote Dave Chapelle "chivalry is dead and women killed it!"..i am the type of guy who still opens doors and pulls out chairs but there are a lot of women these days who do not appreciate that type of attention i cant count the number of times i have been out to a club or a diner and held the door for a woman or women who were in line behind me and i was nice enough to let them go ahead of me a did not get a "thank you" or "i appreciate it" or any sort of acknowledgment it seems to them that being "independent women" means that they can do everything for them selves and if a man does do something for them thats his business!..now I must admit these are younger women but sometimes they are not. I am who am a respectful young man the way my mother raised me to be but i have discovered that there are a lot women who are not worth the effort..period!.. if you cant be respectful enough to say thank you to someone who gives you that respect then you shouldn't have a door opened or held for you!

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I think its how they were raised....opening doors for a lady is aka manners.

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Really has nothing to do with what you talking bout but

well me and my high school boyfriend (7 years ago, lol) pulled up to a gas station beside this old white couple. He got out and opened the door for me. They were shocked and praised him about being a "gentleman, his momma had raised him right , how wonderful to see such values and respect in a young man" etc.


That shit was so fucking funny to me because little did they know. There was no DOOR HANDLE in the inside of the car. So if he did not open it from the outside, my ass would not have been able to get out...

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Fu-nny!

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