Grant Hill's Response to The Fab 5 Documentary

March 16, 2011, 1:47 pm

Grant Hill’s Response to Jalen Rose

Grant Hill currently plays for the Phoenix Suns.Associated Press Grant Hill currently plays for the Phoenix Suns.

“The Fab Five,” an ESPN film about the Michigan basketball careers of Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson from 1991 to 1993, was broadcast for the first time Sunday night. In the show, Rose, the show’s executive producer, stated that Duke recruited only black players he considered to be “Uncle Toms.” Grant Hill, a player on the Duke team that beat Michigan in the 1992 Final Four, reflected on Rose’s comments.

I am a fan, friend and longtime competitor of the Fab Five. I have competed against Jalen Rose and Chris Webber since the age of 13. At Michigan, the Fab Five represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way. The very idea of the Fab Five elicited pride and promise in much the same way the Georgetown teams did in the mid-1980s when I was in high school and idolized them. Their journey from youthful icons to successful men today is a road map for so many young, black men (and women) who saw their journey through the powerful documentary, “The Fab Five.”

It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a b**** and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me. I should have guessed there was something regrettable in the documentary when I received a Twitter apology from Jalen before its premiere. I am aware Jalen has gone to some length to explain his remarks about my family in numerous interviews, so I believe he has some admiration for them.

In his garbled but sweeping comment that Duke recruits only “black players that were ‘Uncle Toms,’ ” Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle-class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today.

I am beyond fortunate to have two parents who are still working well into their 60s. They received great educations and use them every day. My parents taught me a personal ethic I try to live by and pass on to my children.

I come from a strong legacy of black Americans. My namesake, Henry Hill, my father’s father, was a day laborer in Baltimore. He could not read or write until he was taught to do so by my grandmother. His first present to my dad was a set of encyclopedias, which I now have. He wanted his only child, my father, to have a good education, so he made numerous sacrifices to see that he got an education, including attending Yale.

This is part of our great tradition as black Americans. We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them. Jalen’s mother is part of our great black tradition and made the same sacrifices for him.

My teammates at Duke — all of them, black and white — were a band of brothers who came together to play at the highest level for the best coach in basketball. I know most of the black players who preceded and followed me at Duke. They all contribute to our tradition of excellence on the court.

It is insulting and ignorant to suggest that men like Johnny Dawkins (coach at Stanford), Tommy Amaker (coach at Harvard), Billy King (general manager of the Nets), Tony Lang (coach of the Mitsubishi Diamond Dolphins in Japan), Thomas Hill (small-business owner in Texas), Jeff Capel (former coach at Oklahoma and Virginia Commonwealth), Kenny Blakeney (assistant coach at Harvard), Jay Williams (ESPN analyst), Shane Battier (Memphis Grizzlies) and Chris Duhon (Orlando Magic) ever sold out their race.

To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous. All of us are extremely proud of the current Duke team, especially Nolan Smith. He was raised by his mother, plays in memory of his late father and carries himself with the pride and confidence that they instilled in him.

The sacrifice, the effort, the education and the friendships I experienced in my four years are cherished. The many Duke graduates I have met around the world are also my “family,” and they are a special group of people. A good education is a privilege.

Just as Jalen has founded a charter school in Michigan, we are expected to use our education to help others, to improve life for those who need our assistance and to use the excellent education we have received to better the world.

A highlight of my time at Duke was getting to know the great John Hope Franklin, James B. Duke Professor of History and the leading scholar of the last century on the total history of African-Americans in this country. His insights and perspectives contributed significantly to my overall development and helped me understand myself, my forefathers and my place in the world.

Ad ingenium faciendum, toward the building of character, is a phrase I recently heard. To me, it is the essence of an educational experience. Struggling, succeeding, trying again and having fun within a nurturing but competitive environment built character in all of us, including every black graduate of Duke.

My mother always says, “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.” As we get older, we understand the importance of these words. Adulthood is nothing but a series of choices: you can say yes or no, but you cannot avoid saying one or the other. In the end, those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them.

I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped them back then for their appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons.

I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.

Grant Henry Hill
Phoenix Suns
Duke ‘94

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its really a shame that people buy into that Duke stereotype cause it is not true by any means...

MissBling said:
I think that Jalen and crew had a disdain for Duke that they took out on their players. I know that Grant was pissed about the Unc Tom statement amongst other things, but I can see his point as well. It's like going to a school that you know is racist unless you fit a certain mold and background. You can choose to stick with it or not but you know they wouldn't have your ass on their roster otherwise. That's a tough pill to swallow for a Duke namesake. There are other great prestigious schools to go to. Jalen didn't have to call him a b**** tho'.
Now or back then?

JustMe said:
its really a shame that people buy into that Duke stereotype cause it is not true by any means...

MissBling said:
I think that Jalen and crew had a disdain for Duke that they took out on their players. I know that Grant was pissed about the Unc Tom statement amongst other things, but I can see his point as well. It's like going to a school that you know is racist unless you fit a certain mold and background. You can choose to stick with it or not but you know they wouldn't have your ass on their roster otherwise. That's a tough pill to swallow for a Duke namesake. There are other great prestigious schools to go to. Jalen didn't have to call him a b**** tho'.
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend.

Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.



JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  

Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

Wow that was very well spoken...i have watch the documentary..i love the fab 5
Exactly!!!

Sissy said:
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend.

Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.



JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  

Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

Jalen was stating how he felt when he was a teenager, as did many at the time, including myself......however as an adult, he clearly stated how he was "bitter" and from what he stated jealous of Grant and his family life, one he clearly envied......I don't think he statements were taken in totality.
Actually they've been friends since 13... 

Sissy said:
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend. Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.



JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  

Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

Actually both... They honestly don't care where you're from but they do want you to uphold a certain standard when you get there... 

JustMe said:
its really a shame that people buy into that Duke stereotype cause it is not true by any means...

MissBling said:
I think that Jalen and crew had a disdain for Duke that they took out on their players. I know that Grant was pissed about the Unc Tom statement amongst other things, but I can see his point as well. It's like going to a school that you know is racist unless you fit a certain mold and background. You can choose to stick with it or not but you know they wouldn't have your ass on their roster otherwise. That's a tough pill to swallow for a Duke namesake. There are other great prestigious schools to go to. Jalen didn't have to call him a b**** tho'.
Yes, I'm old enough to remember, but I honestly font remember that... Must've been a northern thing... 

MissBling said:
Exactly!!!

Sissy said:
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend.

Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.



JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  

Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

Who told you they were friends since the age of 13???  That's FAAAAAR from the truth.  They definitely weren't friends when they were younger.  Not even a little.

 

Did they play against each other since the age of 13? Yes.  Were they friends? No way.  

JustMe said:

Actually they've been friends since 13... 

Sissy said:
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend. Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.



JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  

Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

My bad, I re-read it, it does say competed against...

 

but my opinion still stands, I understand Jalen expressed his feelings then, but he (IMO) should've also spoke on how he feels now...

Sissy said:

Who told you they were friends since the age of 13???  That's FAAAAAR from the truth.  They definitely weren't friends when they were younger.  Not even a little.

 

Did they play against each other since the age of 13? Yes.  Were they friends? No way.  
JustMe said:

Actually they've been friends since 13... 
Sissy said:
I feel you about reaching out personally, but I heard that he did that as well. The twitter thing was like his "press release" so everyone else could know he was checking in on his friend. Also, you're absolutely right about Grant having a right to respond to what they said. I just disagree with him feeling like it's present day drama when it's nothing like that at all. Back in the day, EVERYONE called black Duke ball players Uncle Toms...it's nothing he hasn't heard before!! Plus, they weren't cool back then so it's not like Grant should feel betrayed or anything.


JustMe said:

grown men apologize personally not via twitter...

 

How he felt is how he felt... doesn't make it right... And Grant has every right to express how his supposed friend calling him a b**** on national television made him feel...  
Sissy said:

Ok, let me be clear... I definitely don't agree with what Jalen and co. said about black Duke students.  If anything, Jalen would've hated me too if he had known me and my family.  My point is, him saying what his feelings were some 20 years ago is not a bad thing!!  

How many of you are friends now with someone you once hated? Or chose not to be friends with because you didn't like their ways?  Didn't understand their culture?  Everyone is not the most accepting of different cultures, traditions, backgrounds, etc. that we don't understand.  Why is anyone mad at Jalen for admitting how ignorant he was back in the day?!?!

Him talking about how he felt back then is also NOT a bad thing.  You know good and damn well you remember some negative thoughts you've had about people, I know I have.  Even though I may not feel that way today doesn't mean I've forgotten how I felt back then.

We're so quick to act high and mighty when Jalen is just a person with feelings, emotions, etc.  He came from nothing- didn't one of them say they had to drink sugar water? WTF is that about??? 

Bottom line is, Jalen clearly doesn't feel the same way he felt all those years ago and THAT'S why he reached out to Grant Hill first.  He didn't want Hill and everyone else to assume that's how he feels now.  It's not bitchassness, that's grown man s***.  He has grown up- he was very ignorant back in the day but he changed.  

 

I have NEVER been a fan of Grant Hill and still am not a fan; however, I do understand his point of view, he was insulted by Jalen said about Duke where he was a student and member of Duke Basketball system. Honestly, I would be as well. But, I do believe that Grant should understand that is how Jalen felt at that time; remember he was an 18 yrs YOUNG MAN and that he how he felt at that time in his life.

 

What Grant should have questioned, why do you feel Duke was recruiting "Uncle Toms" this is the conversation that should have happen instead of posting on Associated Press wire service. Besides, Jalen apologize to Grant BEFORE the documentary aired....that should have been the time to have the conversation, IMO.

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