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‘Pregnancy Begins 2 Weeks Before Conception’ Now The Law In Arizona
In Arizona, women are now legally pregnant two weeks before conception, according to a new law, the Orwellianly-named, “Women’s Health and Safety Act,” signed yesterday by Republican Governor Jan Brewer. The scientifically, medically, ethically, and intellectually dishonest legislation is designed to reduce the amount of time a woman is allowed to have a legal abortion, and is one of the most draconian bills to become law in America.
The bill was sponsored by extremist Arizona State Rep. Kimberly Yee, (image) who 
last month penned an op-ed titled, “No drug test, no welfare.” Yee wrote:
States have an obligation to hold those on public assistance accountable for their actions. Receiving a public benefit is a privilege, not a right. The debate on drug testing welfare recipients is simply about the responsible use of tax dollars.
It’s unclear where in the U.S. constitution it states that the states “have an obligation to hold those on public assistance accountable for their actions.”
“Planned Parenthood of Arizona lobbyist Michelle Steinberg called the law the country’s ‘most extreme piece of anti-abortion legislation’.” the Tucson Citizen reported:
She said the law defines pregnancy in a way that bans abortion two weeks before the other seven states with similar laws, because it calculates gestational age starting with the first day of the last menstrual period rather than the date of conception.
During the hearings on the bill, doctors said many women don’t discover their fetus has a severe or life-threatening problem until an ultrasound at about the 20th week. The doctors — and several women who had faced this issue — testified that this law would arbitrarily cut off the right for these women to have an abortion.
“My heart goes out to the families that will be impacted,” Steinberg said. “Women are being forced to carry children that they know will end up dying within hours of birth.”
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The bill signed into law Thursday makes other changes to abortion regulations, including the requirement of an ultrasound 24 hours before the procedure. The law becomes effective 90 days after the Legislature ends its session, which is likely to occur later this month.
Current law allows abortions up until the point of viability, when a fetus could reasonably survive on its own outside the womb. That’s considered by many medical experts and abortion clinics to be from 22 to 24 weeks. Current law also allows abortions beyond that to protect the “life or health of the woman” but doesn’t define health.
The Daily Beast adds:
The stipulation likely to be most widely felt is what experts are calling an effective shutdown of medication abortions. These nonsurgical abortions are usually performed within the first nine weeks of pregnancy, and account for between 17 and 20 percent of all abortions, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive-rights advocacy group. While women often take the pills at clinics and in their homes, the bill now mandates that a medical provider must have hospital privileges within 30 miles of where the procedure takes place. Many times clinics or homes are not within 30 miles of hospitals, and the distance prevents providers from other cities or even states from caring for women, says Elizabeth Nash of the Guttmacher Institute. Another factor that could contribute to what Nash called a “shutdown” of medication abortions is that the law requires abortion pills to be administered using outdated protocols, confusing providers and obscuring proper use of the drugs.
While it becomes the seventh state to pass such legislation in the past two years, many Arizonans believe theirs is the most restrictive and sinister because of the degree to which it will legislate health care, thwart evidence-based medicine, and shame women. One in three women will have an abortion before age 45 according to Guttmacher, and more than half of those women already have a child.
The law “disregards women’s health in a way I’ve never seen before,” said Center for Reproductive Rights’ state advocacy counsel, Jordan Goldberg. “The women of Arizona can’t access medical treatment that other women can.”
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Other parts of the law includes education in public schools prioritizing birth and adoption, signs throughout health-care facilities warning against abortion “coercion,” and an order for the state health department to create and maintain a website touting alternatives to abortion and displaying images of fetuses. Also required is abortion counseling for women aiming to abort pregnancies due to fetal abnormalities, and if the abnormality is certain to be fatal, the counseling incorporates perinatal hospice information before ending the pregnancy. It reaffirms existing barriers to access, like the requirement of a notarized parental consent form for minors and a mandatory ultrasound screening within 24 hours of having an abortion.
State Rep. Kimberly Yee, the sponsor of the House bill, which passed Monday, said she acted with her constituents in mind, adding that many of them feel it “doesn’t go far enough.”
Apparently, Rep. Kimberly Yee believes women should be in a perpetual state of pregnancy.
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Permalink Reply by PlaneJaneLane on -
She is def a betrayer of women. I have my own feelings about abortion but this is obviously intended to discourage promiscuity. It isn't up to her.
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Permalink Reply by PlaneJaneLane on
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There is a country in Europe that I shall not Google that has legalized all drugs, in fact they will give you drugs, the only thing they regulate is WHERE you can do drugs. For example, I believe they had a problem with kids finding needles near the tot lot. So the government said "We will give you drugs but you have to use them here on this side of the park" and that part of the parks just became the drug lot and no one went near there. Of course the government issued drugs lessened dosage in attempt to wean addicts off of drugs but think of all the gang violence that would drop if we did that here.
blackfujones said:gotta disagree w/ you tone. i can give a s*** less what anyone persons do with their body. just like i believe all drugs should be legalized. we have the power of choice supposedly in this country, however our decisions are policied to benefit a certain sector of govt. 'police state'
Tone said:Nothing wrong with this law abortion should be illegal.
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Permalink Reply by mavsbabe41 on -
I, too, heard about a few countries that legalized so many drugs that the crime rate is so low compared to the United States that it's ridiculous yet not surprising if true.
PlaneJaneLane said:There is a country in Europe that I shall not Google that has legalized all drugs, in fact they will give you drugs, the only thing they regulate is WHERE you can do drugs. For example, I believe they had a problem with kids finding needles near the tot lot. So the government said "We will give you drugs but you have to use them here on this side of the park" and that part of the parks just became the drug lot and no one went near there. Of course the government issued drugs lessened dosage in attempt to wean addicts off of drugs but think of all the gang violence that would drop if we did that here.
blackfujones said:gotta disagree w/ you tone. i can give a s*** less what anyone persons do with their body. just like i believe all drugs should be legalized. we have the power of choice supposedly in this country, however our decisions are policied to benefit a certain sector of govt. 'police state'
Tone said:Nothing wrong with this law abortion should be illegal.
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Permalink Reply by Still Pretty V on -
I taught a class on pregnancy I'm also a mother!!U r technically pregnant once ur period starts..if ur egg gets fertilized then u will continue it pregnancy... if it doesn't then u will have a period next month.. if ur not having sex then no u not pregnant...any doctor will tell u also any pregnancy website... once u become pregnant ur dr will add the 2week that u was deciding if u was gon let the nigga hit!! If u choose not to f*** then u won't get pregnant! At the end of the day you r pregnant 2weeks prior to conception... . Bottom line!!
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Permalink Reply by Still Pretty V on
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Its almost amazing how uneducated some ppl r about pregnancy! Its actually sad... I may not be able to explain it properly cuz I'm using my phone... but if ur a woman n u know ur body then u should understand how this works... ur not pregnant 12 timesa month... does that even make since? But IF u do become pregnant...THEN u were TECHNICALLY pregnant once ur period began! Just like TECHNICALLY ur pregnant for 10mnths not nine... but that's prolly doesn't sound accurate either huh?? Smh
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Permalink Reply by Miss Good on -
How can you become pregnant if you are "technically" already pregnant? And what about women (like myself) who have irregular periods? Periods that come every few months and sometimes last a full week and sometimes a few days? At the point I really do become pregnant, how many weeks does the doctor add on then? I mean, I see what youre getting at but the female reproductive system is pretty complex. I was once premed so trust me when i say I understand. But to make a law based off of a technicality just doesnt make any sense.. at all. Medical technicality at all. But sense were going off of technicalities, doesnt that mean were always pregnant because were holding eggs, theyre just not fertilized?? Pregnancy (or the process of) isnt that difficult to understand. A man and a woman have sex, the sperm fertilizes the egg and BOOM she's pregnant.. technically..
Still Pretty V said:I taught a class on pregnancy I'm also a mother!!U r technically pregnant once ur period starts..if ur egg gets fertilized then u will continue it pregnancy... if it doesn't then u will have a period next month.. if ur not having sex then no u not pregnant...any doctor will tell u also any pregnancy website... once u become pregnant ur dr will add the 2week that u was deciding if u was gon let the nigga hit!! If u choose not to f*** then u won't get pregnant! At the end of the day you r pregnant 2weeks prior to conception... . Bottom line!!
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Permalink Reply by OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE on -
This debate will roll on forever, and why some people confuse the period of' 'ovulation'/ & your fertile window with an actually fertilized egg which determines a pregnancy is beyond me.
You can't call people 'uneducated' regarding this issue because people keep changing the definition of pregnancy to fulfill their own agendas.
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Permalink Reply by Rad on -
Dr.'s use the first day of your period to determine gestational age which is just the time frame you probably got pregnant. The fetal age (which is what should be relevant to the law) is the actual age of the fetus determined through ultrasound measurements. This law uses gestational age which can add at least 2weeks for a legal abortion.
Honestly, the most disturbing thing about that law is the requirement of privileges from hospitals within a certain mile radius. Getting privileges at a hospital can be a clusterf*ck for a doctor. If the only hospital within a 30 mile radius is Sacred Heart of Mary Magdalene Jesus, and they deny your privileges request for religious or even political reasons, the patients you may want to administer the abortion are f*cked.
Still Pretty V said:You actually are considered pregnant once ur period starts! If u don't believe it Google it! 2weeks after ur period str arts that's when u ovulate...which is the only way u can conceive... when u go yo the dr n find out ur pregnant they always go back to the first day of ur last period which is how they tell u how many weeks u r
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Permalink Reply by JustMe on -
I think the person meant year, and if you truly believe what you are saying, then YES all women are perpetually pregnant... Technically we are pregnant 40 weeks, which some consider 10 months, believing that 4 weeks = 1 month. But if you think of your true conception date and your child's birth we're pregnant only 9 months...
Like Spice said we can debate all day, but calling people uneducated because we don't subscribe to your technical belief system is just...
Still Pretty V said:Its almost amazing how uneducated some ppl r about pregnancy! Its actually sad... I may not be able to explain it properly cuz I'm using my phone... but if ur a woman n u know ur body then u should understand how this works... ur not pregnant 12 timesa month... does that even make since? But IF u do become pregnant...THEN u were TECHNICALLY pregnant once ur period began! Just like TECHNICALLY ur pregnant for 10mnths not nine... but that's prolly doesn't sound accurate either huh?? Smh
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Permalink Reply by Phoenix on -
+1 !!!!!!!
OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE said:This debate will roll on forever, and why some people confuse the period of' 'ovulation'/ & your fertile window with an actually fertilized egg which determines a pregnancy is beyond me.
You can't call people 'uneducated' regarding this issue because people keep changing the definition of pregnancy to fulfill their own agendas.
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Permalink Reply by OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE on
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+10 lol
Tracy said:Just.......WOW!!!!
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