as a child of the black church, I know the feelings people have when they feel they have been betrayed by their minister or elders in the church... I've seen scandal after scandal. Some true & Some not so true...

 

Since the allegations have come out, I have been thinking what is this about? People have always called Long gay & evil... so why now what happened now, what is GOD trying to tell us...

 

IMO this is about the lack of true communication within the black church on the subject of SEX... the first epidemic of this nondiscussion was teen & unwed mothers... seems as if the new wave is DL men that are afraid to express their true sexuality, so they lead dual lives...

 

Whatever your feeling are about homosexuality, lets be honest... the Black Church, whether is be Baptist, Catholic, AME,etc., is not the place to be openly gay... How many of us have known seemingly straight men that suddenly die of AIDS (yes I know both heterosexuals and homosexuals can get AIDS) ... How many of us have attended weddings and wondered "i thought he/she was gay"???

 

I know what the bible says about homosexuality... But I also know that the bible says "a sin is a sin"... So why can't we as Christians let homosexuals out of the closet??? Why is it that your pastor can be an adulturer, a thief, a drunk or a crackhead? but his tail "bet not be gay"????? What makes us think that we are better than them?

 

I don't know about you, but I have NEVER heard anyone pray that someone loses the spirit of promiscuity... why is that? Why is it that a promiscuous straight person is deemed better than a faithful gay one?

 

Thoughts?

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Honestly, I am moving towards believing christianity might be joke, an institution to control ppl. The more educated I become and the more i study history I find that christianity has been a tool to fool, betray, disenfranchise, enslave many a people...case in point, the history and extermination of indigenous peoples in the Americas,Australia and Africa. Why do u think them Arabs/China dont f*** with America? They know better.....lol...anyways black ppl have been sold a white jesus and been taught to not question it....so thats why there are plenty of indiscretions going on in the black church but its never talked about. Also the black church has done nothing as of late to improve the black community overall.....in my opinion, considering there are still teen pregnancy/unwed mothers/civil rights issues going on...of course though, the black church is also grossly patriarchal and while a woman's indiscretions are preached about, rarely do u hear sermons addressing male indiscretions and sin...more like general ass s*** being preached about
I agree with u, i read the bible cover to cover and it never says sex is bad...matter fact u have a whole book dedicated to lovin "Song of Solomon" and all kinds of juicy tales about sex and intrigue in the Old Testament. However, I do believe the New Testament was censored centuries ago. there are things missing

CCDreamer aka Eve Davis said:
JM, I hear you but most religions repress ALL SEXUALITY. Some where in the Bible it is supposed to tell you that sex is bad unless it is to have kids. I've read the Bible (King James and New American versions) cover to cover about 3 times now and I ain't found that passage yet. I've been told there are many different versions of the Bible and maybe in one of those versions that is where you'll find that passage. I REFUSE to believe that anything that feels that good can be evil. It is just how people use it that invites evil into it.

But since even heterosexual sex has been villified down through the centuries you first have to get an open dialogue about sex before you can ever get the religious folk to discuss homosexual sex. Unfortunately, the religious folk ain't quite caught up to the 21st century.

I am a spiritual person, not religious so I see things a lot differently. I hope I see things a bit clearer than the average religious person. Only God knows for sure though.

JustMe said:
Sex HAS to be discussed in church... Preachers have sermons that speak of or are dedicated to fornication, adultery, and homosexuality... you can tell kids not to do something, but that doesn't suffice for children that are truly struggling with these issues... especially homosexuality... I know of a few guys (both teen & adult) that went to their pastor about gay feelings... More than one was "approached" by the pastor...
When you are struggling with something that you are constantly told cerrtain things are wrong but then your pastor, deacon, youth director etc. comes at you, it can be EXTREMELY confusing, whether you are male or female...
I know of both young men & women that have been taken advantage of, and IMO if there were more honest discussions, kids would be better equipped...

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