The Ethical Slut: Monogomy or Polyamory in the 21st century

In 2009 where 45% of black women have never been married should we begin to redefine ourselves sexually. Are we looking for happiness in marriage/monogomy?

Can one man satisfy you totally? I'm not talking about a man making you happy, we all know we need to be doing that for ourselves.

I mean we you analyze the dating scene, what type of guys are out there and marriage material What is marriage material?

If I decide to leave my present "situation" which I am contemplating, I am considering becoming polyamorous. Not promiscous because there is a difference. I mean having a loving intimate long-term relationship with the full knowledge and consent of everyone involved. My personal limit would be two men.

This does not mean swinging, ménage à trois, or group sex. Looking for a mature discussion on this.

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I couldn't do it.. Keep us posted on your experience with this HUGE lifestyle change!
I'm stingy! I mean in way I could see it working, but I don't think this what a true union should be about.
I'll pass. One and done.
The intention would be where all parties involved would have to be evolved spiritually, mentally and physically so there would be no "f******" or any lower carnal motivated energy involved.
At 40 I need my own space, not interested in residing together. This situation would have to be mutally agreed upon so that everyone is getting what they prefer and desire. Personally, I haven't met one man who imbodies all that I desire and more. There's always lacking in some area or another and I desire to create everything want and more for my life.

Upgrade_Me said:
I think it's something that everyone involved has to wholeheartedly agree with. I saw a couple who had an open marriage on a talk show (Lawd knows I shouldn't be using Tyra Banks' show as an example...LOL) but it was clear that the wife in the core couple of the relationship was the dominant partner in the sense that she had two or three long-term lovers/relationships while her husband had only one other lover, with whom she'd also had a sexual relationship. I think if you have the energy for it as far as devoting yourself to more than one person, then it could be for you; as long as both parties are open and honest. It seems like with a situation like this, jealousy would NOT be an option.

How do you think you'll go about making this lifestyle change; would your lovers be in the same house, same city or different locations?

Interesting topic!
Say more about "additional wear and tear" because this is no different physically than a single woman greeting, meeting, dating and f****** then deciding the person is not what she wants and within a year the number of men she could go through could be well who knows....again I'm not speaking of "f******" in the carnal sense, this situation involves individuals who are evolved.

california said:
you will be dealing with additional wear and tear on the body if you are going to be fcuking both of them...
Riva, I get where you coming from..I feel like monogamy is a myth perpetuated by society to create a mundane reality. Plus the failure rate is to high to ignore.That being said monogamy could work when the two parties involved are more concerned about the needs of the union than the needs of"I". I get everything you say with being in a situation where your partners are evolved..and its much more than carnal desires but at the end of the day no matter how sophisticated we are the animal instinct kicks in and you just want to beat it up.Lol..hey I'm speaking from a male point of view. Everything has its pros and cons..the question for you is whatare some disadvantages you might forsee by being polyamourous?
Riva, I get where you coming from..I feel like monogamy is a myth perpetuated by society to create a mundane reality. Plus the failure rate is to high to ignore.That being said monogamy could work when the two parties involved are more concerned about the needs of the union than the needs of"I". I get everything you say with being in a situation where your partners are evolved..and its much more than carnal desires but at the end of the day no matter how sophisticated we are the animal instinct kicks in and you just want to beat it up.Lol..hey I'm speaking from a male point of view. Everything has its pros and cons..the question for you is whatare some disadvantages you might forsee by being polyamourous?
I think that if all parties involved were born and raised in America including myself it would take a lot of work to consistently maintain that level of thinking. So some of the disadvantages might be on my part is that "wanting more" of whatever. Or being double minded and perhaps feeling guilty about the whole thing. Which all goes back to societies standards of what a relationship is, wanting that perfect picture of marriage and family and going back and forth with those thoughts and the evolved thinking about relationship. I was once in a community where the men were able to have more than one wife and this was a very disempowering situation. Yeah there was sisterhood on the surface but the woman were extremely insecure and not fully self expressed.

Truth Serum said:
Riva, I get where you coming from..I feel like monogamy is a myth perpetuated by society to create a mundane reality. Plus the failure rate is to high to ignore.That being said monogamy could work when the two parties involved are more concerned about the needs of the union than the needs of"I". I get everything you say with being in a situation where your partners are evolved..and its much more than carnal desires but at the end of the day no matter how sophisticated we are the animal instinct kicks in and you just want to beat it up.Lol..hey I'm speaking from a male point of view. Everything has its pros and cons..the question for you is whatare some disadvantages you might forsee by being polyamourous?
This is a joke... I know of couples in open relationships. Dating, Engaged, or Married to two or more people... Point is, no one ever evolves past jealousy. There will be contempt amongst those involved. Trust. No matter how fly and/or self-confident they are.

The bottom line is if that's where you're at right now and you think that the "gluttony" of gorging yourself on the traits/things you like about these men will stifle your desire and leave you totally satisfied - I say, go for it... You won't be the first nor will you be the last. However, I must admit having more than one "Significant Other" seems pretty tempting and self-indulging.
HUH, your creating a whole other conversation first of all. My conversation does not consist of the words "jealousy" or "contempt" "flyness" or "self-confidence" those are not evolved ways of being and if they come up then we get complete around that. This also isn't about "gluttony" or "gorging" on anyone's traits, this is about redefining one's sexually in particular a woman. Also where there is unconditional love jealousy can't reside. Jealousy is a selfish and possessive way of being.

Snow Flower said:
This is a joke... I know of couples in open relationships. Dating, Engaged, or Married to two or more people... Point is, no one ever evolves past jealousy. There will be contempt amongst those involved. Trust. No matter how fly and/or self-confident they are.

The bottom line is if that's where you're at right now and you think that the "gluttony" of gorging yourself on the traits/things you like about these men will stifle your desire and leave you totally satisfied - I say, go for it... You won't be the first nor will you be the last. However, I must admit having more than one "Significant Other" seems pretty tempting and self-indulging.
I thought you said that you wanted a mature discussion? Yes or No? Mature consists of being truthful not idealistic or delusional. Reality is jealousy is something innately within each individual to suggest you can evolve past what makes you "human" in the first place is a crock. It's as if saying that you feel like you're going to evolve pass the need of having water.

Gluttony and Gorging... Yes, those are the words I chose and, I stand by my original statement. Point, is - if you want to go for it...go for it. I didn't create another conversation. It is what it is. You didn't have to respond... You could've ignored it but, the truth usually does strike a chord within others...

This is my question to you - Why would you feel the need to fulfill whatever physical/emotional desires you have if not for selfish reasonings? Hmm...

Riva said:
HUH, your creating a whole other conversation first of all. My conversation does not consist of the words "jealousy" or "contempt" "flyness" or "self-confidence" those are not evolved ways of being and if they come up then we get complete around that. This also isn't about "gluttony" or "gorging" on anyone's traits, this is about redefining one's sexually in particular a woman. Also where there is unconditional love jealousy can't reside. Jealousy is a selfish and possessive way of being.

Snow Flower said:
This is a joke... I know of couples in open relationships. Dating, Engaged, or Married to two or more people... Point is, no one ever evolves past jealousy. There will be contempt amongst those involved. Trust. No matter how fly and/or self-confident they are.

The bottom line is if that's where you're at right now and you think that the "gluttony" of gorging yourself on the traits/things you like about these men will stifle your desire and leave you totally satisfied - I say, go for it... You won't be the first nor will you be the last. However, I must admit having more than one "Significant Other" seems pretty tempting and self-indulging.
YOU obviously thrive on confrontation and I DO NOT need to defend myself to you or anyone else. Everyone on the planet gets to choose how they want to create their life. The problem is we choose to stay confined in little boxes called right and wrong, and what's good or bad. I don't allow people to put me in those boxes dear. You're right jealousy is a negative state of emotion, among many emotions that would also include love, understanding, trust, etc., that make up the existence or the nature of humans. However, you must have issues with jealousy because it is you who is attempting to force me into your negative, insecure, confrontational, fearful, judgemental conversation where you my dear question anything outside of the conversations you've been exposed too. You know you have a wicked way of changing the context of the original thought too something questionable, dirty, low and bad. I'm not open to any discussions like that. By the way you didn't strike a chord which was your intention anyway, the truth really does come out doesn't it.

Snow Flower said:
I thought you said that you wanted a mature discussion? Yes or No? Mature consists of being truthful not idealistic or delusional. Reality is jealousy is something innately within each individual to suggest you can evolve past what makes you "human" in the first place is a crock. It's as if saying that you feel like you're going to evolve pass the need of having water.

Gluttony and Gorging... Yes, those are the words I chose and, I stand by my original statement. Point, is - if you want to go for it...go for it. I didn't create another conversation. It is what it is. You didn't have to respond... You could've ignored it but, the truth usually does strike a chord within others...

This is my question to you - Why would you feel the need to fulfill whatever physical/emotional desires you have if not for selfish reasonings? Hmm...

Riva said:
HUH, your creating a whole other conversation first of all. My conversation does not consist of the words "jealousy" or "contempt" "flyness" or "self-confidence" those are not evolved ways of being and if they come up then we get complete around that. This also isn't about "gluttony" or "gorging" on anyone's traits, this is about redefining one's sexually in particular a woman. Also where there is unconditional love jealousy can't reside. Jealousy is a selfish and possessive way of being.

Snow Flower said:
This is a joke... I know of couples in open relationships. Dating, Engaged, or Married to two or more people... Point is, no one ever evolves past jealousy. There will be contempt amongst those involved. Trust. No matter how fly and/or self-confident they are.

The bottom line is if that's where you're at right now and you think that the "gluttony" of gorging yourself on the traits/things you like about these men will stifle your desire and leave you totally satisfied - I say, go for it... You won't be the first nor will you be the last. However, I must admit having more than one "Significant Other" seems pretty tempting and self-indulging.

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