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My friend and I were having a discussion about money and ballers. I've never talked to a "real" baller, but she has talked to a few known ballers. We were discussing money and I say that she should have a few dollars saved where she can do certain things when she wants. She says that ballers don't give out money like regular dudes. I fail to find that true. From the regular guys I've talked to, I've always gotten money, I've been on a few trips, got niice gifts, money, rent paid, etc. Even when I was in high school, I was getting a few dollars, it wasn't lots of money but If a pair of Jordans, Deion Sanders, goose coat, etc came out - I had them. A few years back I invited her on a trip and she didn't come because of the money factor, That had me blown. (matter of fact it was two trips) You messin with a NBA/NFL player and he can't pay $300 for your plane ticket, or at least pay your rent/car payment for you so you could pay for it on your own???? I ask her do she ever ask for money and she says yeah, like $300..Im like what???? her argument is that she doesnt want to seem like other girls and make it seem like she only wants him for his money. I say f*** that - he gone ask you for p****, you gone give it to him, and he just figures you're an easy lay that doesn't cost a thing (this in my mind).
Im not saying she should have a mansion but damn, she should at least be able to call and say "Hey, can you get me a plane ticket to so and so or give me a few dollars on my rent". Thats my girl and I love her but she's always been iffy bout asking dudes for money because a mututal friend of ours, but i was messing with him, had to loan her some money before to get her car fixed but she couldn't get it from the dude she was talking to. HE told her, if these dudes can't give you no money you need to cut them loose. And the thing is that she is gorgeous, so she attracts them like crazy - I tell her, If I looked like you I would BE in a mansion by now.
Anyways my question is What do yall think?? Is it harder to get money from ppl with money than it is from guys without money. Im not saying ask dude to buy you a condo off top, but shyt like plane tickets, rent, car payments and things. Opinions?
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Permalink Reply by Tone © on March 26, 2012 at 10:40pm So you are saying she should also give him money for the sex he provides her?
JustMe said:
you're stupid Tone... if she is satisfying his needs, he needs to satisfy hers...
Tone said:Or maybe he does not want to be looked at as an ATM.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:I would tell her to say that she was in a bind and needed help on her car payment/rent for that month. If a dude cant help you when you SAY you need it, even if youre lying, he doesnt care about you as much as you would like to think and should be dealt with accordingly.
Dominique said:I can see where she’s coming because some people don’t want to come off as a gold digger. What I learned is that if someone really likes and/or cares about you they want to see you have things you want and need. Also, if I ever need something and someone I’m talking to doesn’t step, I would cut them off immediately.
For some reasons they guys that I know that trick won’t trick on things like bills, but will spend money on shoes, clothes, trips, etc. Why is that? I want someone to give me money to pay bills and build wealth not just material things!
Permalink Reply by University of Smitty on March 26, 2012 at 10:46pm It's one of those things in life that we refer to as a 'double standard', Tone. Get over it....
Tone said:
So you are saying she should also give him money for the sex he provides her?
JustMe said:you're stupid Tone... if she is satisfying his needs, he needs to satisfy hers...
Tone said:Or maybe he does not want to be looked at as an ATM.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:I would tell her to say that she was in a bind and needed help on her car payment/rent for that month. If a dude cant help you when you SAY you need it, even if youre lying, he doesnt care about you as much as you would like to think and should be dealt with accordingly.
Dominique said:I can see where she’s coming because some people don’t want to come off as a gold digger. What I learned is that if someone really likes and/or cares about you they want to see you have things you want and need. Also, if I ever need something and someone I’m talking to doesn’t step, I would cut them off immediately.
For some reasons they guys that I know that trick won’t trick on things like bills, but will spend money on shoes, clothes, trips, etc. Why is that? I want someone to give me money to pay bills and build wealth not just material things!
Permalink Reply by Tone © on March 26, 2012 at 10:54pm You know i have to rant just to rant
University of Smitty said:
It's one of those things in life that we refer to as a 'double standard', Tone. Get over it....
Tone said:So you are saying she should also give him money for the sex he provides her?
JustMe said:you're stupid Tone... if she is satisfying his needs, he needs to satisfy hers...
Tone said:Or maybe he does not want to be looked at as an ATM.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:I would tell her to say that she was in a bind and needed help on her car payment/rent for that month. If a dude cant help you when you SAY you need it, even if youre lying, he doesnt care about you as much as you would like to think and should be dealt with accordingly.
Dominique said:I can see where she’s coming because some people don’t want to come off as a gold digger. What I learned is that if someone really likes and/or cares about you they want to see you have things you want and need. Also, if I ever need something and someone I’m talking to doesn’t step, I would cut them off immediately.
For some reasons they guys that I know that trick won’t trick on things like bills, but will spend money on shoes, clothes, trips, etc. Why is that? I want someone to give me money to pay bills and build wealth not just material things!
Permalink Reply by Zaria 22 on March 26, 2012 at 11:56pm I think ya'll are both right. I mean I see what homegirl is saying. But she may be playing the good girl card with the wrong dudes. I had to learn that the hard way. You have to treat each dudes differently. A lot of these rookies and young ones (under 25) don't really know the game and their tight with their money. They will make a naive girl feel intimidated to ask him for money. So in some cases I feel her about the regular dudes. I get my basic needs met easily with regular dudes. It's nothing. But athletes, it's not always as easy. They tend to have their guards up. If she come across dudes that give her the BF vibe than she can roll like that with them, but the one's that's tryna f*** her, she need to ask straight up for what she need. And if he say no, leave his ass alone! She should under no circumstances be giving up any sex of any kind without getting her needs met. Real talk.
Permalink Reply by Zaria 22 on March 27, 2012 at 12:03am I know what you mean. Let me tell you, it's because some dudes don't wana feel like their taking care of a woman's responsibilities. If you say you need help paying a bill it looks like your not independent and you can't take care of yourself. He's thinking "that's your s***, not mine". But if he is buying you a "gift" or giving you money to have a little fun or shop, it's like he's "treating" you. This is just from my experiences. I never ask for help paying bills (unless it's a reg. nigga) b/c I want to keep my independence. If I really do need help for a bill, I'll ask for the amount I need and say it's for gucci shoes or my hair or something stupid, then take the cash and do what I need ;)
Dominique said:
I can see where she’s coming because some people don’t want to come off as a gold digger. What I learned is that if someone really likes and/or cares about you they want to see you have things you want and need. Also, if I ever need something and someone I’m talking to doesn’t step, I would cut them off immediately.
For some reasons they guys that I know that trick won’t trick on things like bills, but will spend money on shoes, clothes, trips, etc. Why is that? I want someone to give me money to pay bills and build wealth not just material things!
Permalink Reply by PlaneJaneLane on March 27, 2012 at 2:31am From my experience its because they want to keep you dependent upon them. Once you have your own, the less you shall need them.
Ms. Ashley Banks said:
I'm still trying to figure this one out.
Dominique said:I can see where she’s coming because some people don’t want to come off as a gold digger. What I learned is that if someone really likes and/or cares about you they want to see you have things you want and need. Also, if I ever need something and someone I’m talking to doesn’t step, I would cut them off immediately.
For some reasons they guys that I know that trick won’t trick on things like bills, but will spend money on shoes, clothes, trips, etc. Why is that? I want someone to give me money to pay bills and build wealth not just material things!
Permalink Reply by CCD is Workin on a baller 4 she on March 27, 2012 at 9:39am I don't understand why so many women have a problem coming off as a golddigger. Men don't have a problem being manwhores. As a matter of fact a lot of men consider it a compliment when you call them a manwhore. *shrug* Golddigger just means your bills are paid, you bank account is fat, and you are doing something right.
*shudders* Unpaid bills make me frigid.
Make a donation to a charity if your azz is feeling guilty.
Permalink Reply by Skytz0100 on March 27, 2012 at 10:02am It shouldn't be hard at all to get money from a dude with money, but, you have to also factor in, is this dude personality closer to old money or is he "new" money. New money is selfish and remembers where they came from and tend to not spend more than necessary or in some cases, they pull a Rick Ross and get to BMF'ing there stash whenever they can. However, "old" money doesn't want to flash and spend as much so they are more frugal as to where they send their money and the goal is to get a good return on the money you are paying. Now with that being said I can't say if she is capable of getting dude to come out the pockets with conversation alone but she needs to figure out what type of dude she is messing with and modify her tactics based on that.
I don't think that you should be messing with a dude that you can not ask for help when it is needed. Time for a new baller who is willing to pay like he weighs!
Permalink Reply by Skytz0100 on March 27, 2012 at 10:06am RIGHT!
JustMe said:
IMO what a nigga is willing to do tells you what he thinks of you... Most niggas I've ran into with real money ASK about your needs/wants... Some niggas will fly you out, treat you good while you're in town & send you home broke... Those are the niggas you should stay away from... After all you can get f***** for free at home...
Permalink Reply by Tone © on March 27, 2012 at 11:01am Maybe they don't want to put a monetary value on their worth.
CCDreamin' of a baller for me said:
I don't understand why so many women have a problem coming off as a golddigger. Men don't have a problem being manwhores. As a matter of fact a lot of men consider it a compliment when you call them a manwhore. *shrug* Golddigger just means your bills are paid, you bank account is fat, and you are doing something right.
*shudders* Unpaid bills make me frigid.
Make a donation to a charity if your azz is feeling guilty.
Permalink Reply by MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! on March 27, 2012 at 12:12pm theyre not..theyre just givin ish away for free
Tone said:
Maybe they don't want to put a monetary value on their worth.
CCDreamin' of a baller for me said:I don't understand why so many women have a problem coming off as a golddigger. Men don't have a problem being manwhores. As a matter of fact a lot of men consider it a compliment when you call them a manwhore. *shrug* Golddigger just means your bills are paid, you bank account is fat, and you are doing something right.
*shudders* Unpaid bills make me frigid.
Make a donation to a charity if your azz is feeling guilty.
Permalink Reply by SACK CHASER on March 27, 2012 at 12:46pm It shouldn't be hard at all to get money from a dude with money, but, you have to also factor in, is this dude personality closer to old money or is he "new" money. New money is selfish and remembers where they came from and tend to not spend more than necessary or in some cases, they pull a Rick Ross and get to BMF'ing there stash whenever they can. However, "old" money doesn't want to flash and spend as much so they are more frugal as to where they send their money and the goal is to get a good return on the money you are paying. Now with that being said I can't say if she is capable of getting dude to come out the pockets with conversation alone but she needs to figure out what type of dude she is messing with and modify her tactics based on that.
I don't think that you should be messing with a dude that you can not ask for help when it is needed. Time for a new baller who is willing to pay like he weighs!
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