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ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.
Our sister station, FOX 35 in Orlando, has spoken to that witness.
What Sanford Police investigators have in the folder, they put together on the killing of Trayvon Martin few know about.
The file now sits in the hands of the state attorney. Now that file is just weeks away from being opened to a grand jury.
It shows more now about why police believed that night that George Zimmerman shouldn't have gone to jail.
Zimmerman called 911 and told dispatchers he was following a teen. The dispatcher told Zimmerman not to.
And from that moment to the shooting, details are few.
But one man's testimony could be key for the police.
"The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said.
Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red.
The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera.
His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman.
"When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.
Zimmerman says the shooting was self defense. According to information released on the Sanford city website, Zimmerman said he was going back to his SUV when he was attacked by the teen.
Sanford police say Zimmerman was bloody in his face and head, and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains, indicating a struggle took place before the shooting.
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Permalink Reply by OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE on April 12, 2012 at 3:37pm The key for me is the original DA who decided to drop the charges. What personal bias or evidence did he have that made him come to this conclusion. If so, how many other cases did he drop the ball on?? The cops did their jobs and the lead investigator.
University of Smitty said:
Even though he's charged with 2nd degree, he can still be convicted of manslaughter. I think the sh*t he talked to the dispatcher is enough to prove a deviant mind. The fact that he told the dispatcher that he would stop following him and didnt, should prove that he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I want to hear the results of the DOJ's investigation. All the original players in charge have stepped down. I think the DOJ's investigation has something to do with that.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:Am I the only one who thinks that he won't be convicted considering what he is charged with?? I think they had to charge him with something, but they know that 2nd degree wont stick. You tell me all this time they've (poilce) been saying It was self- defense and now it isn't. If it can be proven that is was self-defense (even though we knw it wasnt, but in his mind) then he goes free. I think manslaughter would have been a better charge, because you can be charge with manslaughter even if it was an accident.
Permalink Reply by University of Smitty on April 12, 2012 at 3:53pm Another thing I've noticed is that since GZ surfaced, the story is TM hit him in the face and banged his head. What happened to the broken nose???? I see he doesnt have a crook in it. Everyone I've ever seen that's had a broken nose has a crook across the bridge of it
OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE said:
The key for me is the original DA who decided to drop the charges. What personal bias or evidence did he have that made him come to this conclusion. If so, how many other cases did he drop the ball on?? The cops did their jobs and the lead investigator.
University of Smitty said:Even though he's charged with 2nd degree, he can still be convicted of manslaughter. I think the sh*t he talked to the dispatcher is enough to prove a deviant mind. The fact that he told the dispatcher that he would stop following him and didnt, should prove that he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I want to hear the results of the DOJ's investigation. All the original players in charge have stepped down. I think the DOJ's investigation has something to do with that.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:
Am I the only one who thinks that he won't be convicted considering what he is charged with?? I think they had to charge him with something, but they know that 2nd degree wont stick. You tell me all this time they've (poilce) been saying It was self- defense and now it isn't. If it can be proven that is was self-defense (even though we knw it wasnt, but in his mind) then he goes free. I think manslaughter would have been a better charge, because you can be charge with manslaughter even if it was an accident.
Permalink Reply by JustMe on April 18, 2012 at 9:55pm Another thing I've noticed is that since GZ surfaced, the story is TM hit him in the face and banged his head. What happened to the broken nose???? I see he doesnt have a crook in it. Everyone I've ever seen that's had a broken nose has a crook across the bridge of it
OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE said:The key for me is the original DA who decided to drop the charges. What personal bias or evidence did he have that made him come to this conclusion. If so, how many other cases did he drop the ball on?? The cops did their jobs and the lead investigator.
University of Smitty said:Even though he's charged with 2nd degree, he can still be convicted of manslaughter. I think the sh*t he talked to the dispatcher is enough to prove a deviant mind. The fact that he told the dispatcher that he would stop following him and didnt, should prove that he knew what he was doing was wrong.
I want to hear the results of the DOJ's investigation. All the original players in charge have stepped down. I think the DOJ's investigation has something to do with that.
MS. UCAN NEVA GET ENUFF!! said:
Am I the only one who thinks that he won't be convicted considering what he is charged with?? I think they had to charge him with something, but they know that 2nd degree wont stick. You tell me all this time they've (poilce) been saying It was self- defense and now it isn't. If it can be proven that is was self-defense (even though we knw it wasnt, but in his mind) then he goes free. I think manslaughter would have been a better charge, because you can be charge with manslaughter even if it was an accident.
Permalink Reply by OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE on April 20, 2012 at 10:54am That motherfukker is on the stand right now, with those puppy dog eyes. uggggggghhhhh
Brii said:
Did he bond out?
Permalink Reply by Nala on April 20, 2012 at 10:56am but in the police video there was no blood on him any bruises ... nothing! I'm so confused!
Permalink Reply by Nala on April 20, 2012 at 10:56am whaatttt??
Brii said:
The judge has disqualified herself from the case
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/18/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html
That motherfukker is on the stand right now, with those puppy dog eyes. uggggggghhhhh
Brii said:Did he bond out?
Permalink Reply by University of Smitty on April 20, 2012 at 11:00am ABC has a pic of the bleeding cuts on his head.....and they're not life threatening.
NalaLOVE said:
but in the police video there was no blood on him any bruises ... nothing! I'm so confused!
Permalink Reply by Siren on April 20, 2012 at 11:11am They are letting this fool out! his lawyer is requesting he live outside of state
Brii said:
SMH... Do you think he is going to bond out? I hope he doesn't
OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE said:That motherfukker is on the stand right now, with those puppy dog eyes. uggggggghhhhh
Brii said:Did he bond out?
Permalink Reply by OLD $PICE PINE NEEDLE on April 20, 2012 at 11:11am $150k bond with electronic monitor leg thingy even with his previous history. And AAs gets screwed again.
Where is Antoine Dodson? lol
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